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Robert Clenche
(-Bef 1633)
Joan Webbe
(Abt 1579-)
Edmund Frost
Thomazine Clenche
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Edmund Rice Deacon

Thomazine Frost

  • Christened: 11 Aug 1600, St. James, Stanstead, Suffolk, England
  • Marriage: Edmund Rice Deacon on 15 Oct 1618 in Bury St Edmunds St Mary, Suffolk, England
  • Died: 13 Jun 1654, Sudbury, Middlesex, Massachusetts at age 53

bullet  General Notes:

There has been alot of confusion about Thomazine's last name, parentage, and ancestry. That she was Thomazine Frost is proven by the marriage record at BurySt Mary's. That she was the daughter of Edward Frost and Thomaszine Belgrave, and ancestry of both of those individuals, is completely proven, largely through a string of wills that connect the individual members of the
families involved.

THere were two Frost familes of Hartest and Glemsford, Suffolk, England. One was John Frost, a clergyman silenced by Archbishop Laud in early 1600's, had atleast two children, Edmund, b 1593 at Hartest, and m Thomasine at Hartest, m 3 to Reana, and John Frost. This marriage is often confused with that of Thomasine Frost's parents, Edward Frost and Thomasine Belgrave.

Edmund was a preaching elder and also silenced for ihs views, and foced to leave England; he migrated to CAmbrdge, MA, with first wife and son John, one of founders of First Congregational Church at Cambridge and an elder. ANd his wife died at Sudbury, 1653.Children John, Thomas, Samuel, Joseph, Deacon James, Mary, Ephrai, Thomas.

Meanwhile back in Glemsford and Hartest, William Frost of Glemsford, d 1549, m Philippa, had Roger, John the older or middle and John the younger, Henry. Roger had William, bp 1558, John, bp 1562, Henry, pg 1574, Edward, bp 1576, Henry bp 1579.

John Forst the elder of Glemsford had Wlliam b 1555, Edmund b 1564, John b 1564, Willliam b 1568, Henry b 1572, among others.

John Frost the younger of Glemsford m AnnScott, had Edwrd m Thomasine Belgrave, John b 1609? Henry bp 1568, and this family were clothiers.

Both families were quite prosperous, and I doubt whether they weren't related.

Despite the fact that Edmund served at least five times in the General Court in Boston there is no direct evidence that he was friendly or hob-nobbed with the colony's leaders. But there is indirect evidence that John Winthrop was aware of him other than as a member of the legislature. Edmund Rice married Thomasine Frost and Thomas Blower married her sister, Alice Frost.
Blower arrived in Massachusetts in 1635 but died shortly after 1639. In 1640, Nathan Lufkin of Hitcham, Suffolk, England wrote to John Winthrop in Boston that Thomas Blower owed him 24 pounds and that Edmund Rice knew about it. By this time Alice Blower had already remarried. The tone of the letter suggests that Lufkin and Winthrop were well acquainted and that Lufkin and Edmund were also. Hitcham, Stanstead, and Groton, Winthrop's old home, form a triangle about 8 or 9 miles on a side in the southwestern portion of Suffolk County. This was in the Stour River Valley that had been a major center of Puritanism for at least a generation before.
In fact the extended families of the three Frost sisters, Elizabeth (who married Henry Rice), Alice and Thomasine, were at the center of one of the largest networks of interrelated Puritans who immigrated to the Massachusetts Bay Colony. These might be important underlying facts that allowed Edmund Rice's native abilities to blossom. -Bob Rice


Thomazine married Edmund Rice Deacon on 15 Oct 1618 in Bury St Edmunds St Mary, Suffolk, England. (Edmund Rice Deacon was born about 1594 in Suffolk, ENgland and died on 3 May 1663 in Marlboro, Middlesex, Massachusetts.)

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